I agree and disagree with your last statement – It’s true, these physiques aren’t obtainable by EVERYONE naturally. That’s not what I’m suggesting. There’s a huge genetic component that comes into play which shouldn’t be dismissed. However the ignorance is on your end if you can dismiss any of these physiques as “Not natty” before you’ve even asked the relevant questions. “How long have you been training?”..”What are their genetics like?”..”What are their muscle bellies/attachments/insertions/shapes like?”.